tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post6725831988432661670..comments2024-03-11T11:30:44.833+00:00Comments on A Self-Proclaimed Faroe Islands Ambassador: Are The Faroese People Senseless Terrorizing Murderous Dolphin Killers?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11723584656179151275noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-5064362232671487652018-11-23T14:38:46.174+00:002018-11-23T14:38:46.174+00:00Hi Elin, A great, well written article. It was thi...Hi Elin, A great, well written article. It was this very article, that changed my mind about the Grindadrap. It is too easy to get emotionally mugged, by the images of Whales being slaughtered. But after researching it, listening to both sides of the argument, I feel that there is nothing wrong with it. Whales are gentle animals, that are intelligent and sociable. But so are most other animals. The Faroese are not using expesensive, environmentaly damaging resources, growing livestock. The Whales are free, all their lives, up until they are slaughtered. Economically, it makes sense to harvest what is available, to see the whole community through winter. Import meat? All that happens, is that animals are slaughtered elsewhere and you would pay for it. Animals that are more than likely kept in poor conditions. Ofcourse there is going to be blood in the water. Where else is it going to go? You slaughter an animal, it bleeds. Everyone knows about the Whale hunt and yet, tourists are still flooding to the Faroe Islands. Maybe Grindadrap is not as controversial as we are led to believe. If I am ever in the Faroe Islands and I see a pod of Whales, nearby, I will phone and tell of their location. Thank you for debunking all the propogander.wisp88https://www.blogger.com/profile/07790070345651336870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-82819351692164573362015-06-30T04:30:59.611+01:002015-06-30T04:30:59.611+01:00Interesting point of view. However, even the most...Interesting point of view. However, even the most intelligent report can obfuscate the problem -- which in my mind is the rationale, and rationalizations, behind killing for sport and the joy with which it appears to be done. Yes, I know I don't live there. But the philosophy of killing because it Might be needed to survive is an empty though. <br /><br />HOWEVER, what I really resent is the Faroese government trying to govern what tourists must do. I Will NEVER visit the Faroe islands if I am put in a position by the governing body there to report pods of marine mammals so they can be located and killed. How OUTRAGEOUS!!! And the consequences of not reporting can subject the visitor to whatever fines, prison or something--I put this whole article out of my mind.<br /><br />Chances are this being written a year after the last post that this post will never be seen, but I don't care. If I didn't put my thoughts down about this whole outrageous affair--not just the killing but trying to force me to be (as a potential visitor to the Faroes) a partner in the killing process.<br /><br />Makes me sick!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-32095191934361654512014-07-16T08:24:44.765+01:002014-07-16T08:24:44.765+01:00Very informative, Elin. Most people only see pictu...Very informative, Elin. Most people only see pictures or hear rumours and never try to understand. I can see how some claim it is barbaric because of the outward look (bloody ocead, dead whales, etc.) however some people need to stop speading misinformation.<br /><br />—Kristjanna<br /><br /> Ég afsökunar fyrir ensku minn...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-26093054766587636342014-06-18T18:15:01.062+01:002014-06-18T18:15:01.062+01:00The consumption of chicken in the United States is...The consumption of chicken in the United States isn't necessary, either. However, if you tried to remove chicken from the American diet, everyone would go nuts. Have you ever seen how minuscule the containers are in which most chickens are kept? If you think the way in which the whales are slaughtered is inhumane, you should see the average living conditions of western farm animals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-66831761409010511172013-05-02T12:30:12.273+01:002013-05-02T12:30:12.273+01:00The anonymous posters attacking this articulate wo...The anonymous posters attacking this articulate woman are being willfully ignorant. The Faroese kill animals well within the limits of their natural resources and they do it as quickly and humanely as possible. The whales they kill are not an endangered species and they distribute the meat in an entirely socialist manner that you'd have thought the screeching lefties would be happy about! <br />But sadly, because it doesn't look nice when they're doing it these crybabies are all up in arms on their twitter accounts. Some of them even spend daddies money jumping on filthy "enviroment police" boats and waving placards because they've absolutely nothing better to do.<br />Trying to reason with these complete idiots is a mug's game Elin. Genuinely you should just ignore them. None of them has ever had to lift a finger to survive in their lives.Baxter Harrisonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-89389649192525806382013-03-24T02:49:57.725+00:002013-03-24T02:49:57.725+00:00My name is Denis Steele I worked with Dolphins for...My name is Denis Steele I worked with Dolphins for 5 years. It just barbaric, ok all over the world animals are killed for food. " Humanely " What you do there is make a sceptical a big fun day out for yourselves and kids. Look at the crowds watching the slaughter hearing the cry's of the whales, this must be great fun for you. Nothing you can say to defend this you have a sea around you with so much food in it this is totally unnecessary. It's nothing to do with culture as the "culture" of public hanging, stocks, whippings in many european countries but that's in the past. We have evolved, you have not. The public sceptical of blood and fun while saying you are doing it for food will be stopped, because it's totally inhumane and has no part in a modern world. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-39793391914117178712013-03-21T18:23:30.092+00:002013-03-21T18:23:30.092+00:00Hi Elin
Just want to say thank you for your very ...Hi Elin <br />Just want to say thank you for your very well written post. It was very informative and anyone that reads it (with an open mind) will have a much better understanding of whale killing and the Faroese culture.<br />GudrunAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-60457595980690822542012-05-25T01:35:21.157+01:002012-05-25T01:35:21.157+01:00I would recommend that you read this article about...I would recommend that you read this article about pilot whaling written by an impartial American scientist, who has studied pilot whaling in the Faroes for many years: <a href="http://sciencenordic.com/content/researching-whaling-faroes" rel="nofollow">http://sciencenordic.com/content/researching-whaling-faroes</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11723584656179151275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-67804055302336827192012-05-22T10:43:48.262+01:002012-05-22T10:43:48.262+01:00If the meat is so important there are more humane ...If the meat is so important there are more humane ways to kill the whales. But I guess wading through blood-filled water with a knife to hack away is more fun. The whale hunt is a sad, pathetic excuse for butchery that is both economically and socially unnecessary. Are there abattoirs in the Faroes? Do you kill your livestock in the same manner as you kill the whales? Your attempted justifications for the butchery are Orwellian double-speak.Pathetic Faroesenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-7456907222696583212012-05-07T02:02:37.352+01:002012-05-07T02:02:37.352+01:00I never intended to mislead anyone.
The Faroese ...I never intended to mislead anyone. <br /><br />The Faroese kill whales within the dolphin family. I never denied that. This is exactly what I wrote: The “dolphins” the Faroese kill are not bottlenose dolphins (like ‘Flipper’) who most people are familiar with, but long-finned pilot whales which is another species, though it is in the same family" <br /><br />You took out the last sentence, which shows that I'm very well aware of the fact that pilot whales are in the dolphin family. I just wanted to clarify that they are not the same kind of dolphins as "Flipper" was, and right afterwards I also said, that it was besides the point.<br /><br />It's correct that one bottle nosed dolphin was killed in 2009, so what I should have said, is of course: The "dolphins" the Faroese kill are not - usually - bottle nosed dolphins. The vast majority of the whales, the Faroese kill are long finned pilot whales.<br /><br />I apologize if this has led to any misunderstanding.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11723584656179151275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-88536464578350726782012-05-03T18:05:58.718+01:002012-05-03T18:05:58.718+01:00"Capt. Watson is a master of rhetoric - much ..."Capt. Watson is a master of rhetoric - much more so than I will ever be " - Elin <br /><br />"The "dolphins" the Faroese kill are not bottlenose dolphins (like 'Flipper') who most people are familiar with, but long-finned pilot whales which is another species,...." -Elin 2009<br /><br />www.whaling.fo<br /><br />Catch Figures from 2009 <br /><br />White Sided Dolphins - 170.00<br />Bottle Nosed Dolphin - 1<br />Rissos Dolphins- 3<br /><br />Thanks for the link, ElinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-21592311885875774772012-05-02T04:07:45.439+01:002012-05-02T04:07:45.439+01:00I'm aware it's a figure of speech.
Capt. ...I'm aware it's a figure of speech.<br /><br />Capt. Watson is a master of rhetoric - much more so than I will ever be - but his mastery in this field is at the expense of the truth, unfortunately. And his rhetoric is sometimes so 'concise' that quite essential details are lost. This way of expressing oneself might convince those who are impatient and prefer to brief themselves about the world through headlines, but I doubt they will be much wiser that way.<br /><br />I'm sorry if I have bothered you with my looong blog posts but you know you don't have to read them, if you don't want to. :-)<br /><br />Good luck to you too and good night.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11723584656179151275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-14613991506991902232012-05-02T03:32:44.475+01:002012-05-02T03:32:44.475+01:00It's a figure of speech, Elin. Nothing more. I...It's a figure of speech, Elin. Nothing more. In defense of Paul Watson at least his rhetoric is concise and to the point and he doesn't ramble on and on and on and on in circles. Even Glenn Inwood could cut the BS shorter than you can.<br /><br />Good Luck and please don't bother answering this comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-14588565817215796172012-05-02T01:21:12.706+01:002012-05-02T01:21:12.706+01:00Not at all, Mr. Anonymous. Nothing has been blown ...Not at all, Mr. Anonymous. Nothing has been blown to peaces. Do you think the only purpose of having this discussion is just to blow each others arguments to bits? Maybe that's Capt. Watsons intention, not mine.<br /><br />Capt. Paul Watson calls my arguments rhetoric, because that's his own specialty - rhetoric and seeking confrontation, not peace and understanding. <br /><br />His counter-arguments are just that - confrontational rhetoric - misinterpretations and misleading allegations and also full of factual errors, which anyone can check, if they like. <br /><br />He claims that he can document this and that. Sounds convincing to some, I guess. This also comes down to how you interpret the so-called 'evidence', he claims he has. He shows, for instance, a picture of a father cutting a tooth out of a dead pilot whale to his son, as if this was evidence of how cynical and callous the Faroese people are. People who are already biased and on Watsons side buy that. <br /><br />If you read the small print it's obvious he only comments on statements he relatively easy can twist around and that he avoids to comment on other quite essential issues. <br /><br />I think it is a waste of time to argue with Capt. Watson directly, because he's shown here that he's all about rhetoric, not real talk, and he does not have a history of being susceptible to any arguments - especially not arguments, which in any way defend whale killers, so it would be pointless. <br /><br />But you and other people - and Capt. Watson, if he likes – are very welcome to comment on my new blogpost with even more focus on the essential questions, I'd like those who are opposed to pilot whaling in the Faroe Islands to think about: http://elinbrimheimheinesen.blogspot.com/2012/05/whale-warfare.htmlAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11723584656179151275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-89166546002969964702012-05-01T22:24:41.467+01:002012-05-01T22:24:41.467+01:00What Paul Watson said . Blew Elin's long-winde...What Paul Watson said . Blew Elin's long-winded, ambiguous ,lament to bitsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-72182374318762061872012-04-30T22:34:00.495+01:002012-04-30T22:34:00.495+01:00i totally agree with you elin.... Fabrizioi totally agree with you elin.... FabrizioAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-31908409153477518752012-04-30T16:26:00.221+01:002012-04-30T16:26:00.221+01:00I wish this issue was simpler, but it's not. I...I wish this issue was simpler, but it's not. I do not condone pilot whale killing regardlessly. I'm absolutely opposed to unnecessary cruelty and the killing of animals just 'for fun'. People perceive Faroese pilot whale killing as such. I do not. <br /><br />I believe that pilot whaling in the Faroes is no different - that is: no better nor worse than so many other accepted ways of providing meat. I've spoken to many foreigners who have witnessed a pilot whale slaughter and who aren't opposed to it, after they've seen it, because they saw with their own eyes, that it was far from as cruel and dramatic as they had seen it portrayed by biased anti-whaling activists. <br /><br />Anyway, it IS brutal to kill animals - any animal - regardless of how 'humanely' you try to do it. It is still taking another beings life. And ALL animals resist to being killed by others. But most people in the world eat meat, which means that people have to kill animals. <br /><br />All meat-eating people are - whether we like it or not - predators. I don't like that fact. But it is the truth. Many people, especially city dwellers, seem to have a need to displace that fact, even though they gladly munch burgers themselves. They get very sentimental, when they see animals being killed, probably because they have never been responsible for or involved in an animal killing process themselves. They must have others to do the 'dirty work' for them. <br /><br />People can claim that the Faroese do what they do for many different reasons, but it does not change the fact that Faroese whalers first and foremost do this to provide food for themselves and the community, just as they've done here for more than a thousand years. The whalers don't understand why they should stop this, only because some other people in the world are alienated to something that has been perfectly natural for human beings to do for ever: namely kill animals for food. <br /><br />Every country on earth kills animals, it's just not common elsewhere to kill exactly this kind of animals. But the Faroese kill pilot whales, because there is an abundance of them here, and the Faroes are an island nation, dependent on ocean resources. <br /><br />Can you or anyone else make a list of animals fit for killing and explain to me why some animals aren't fit for killing and others are? Where exactly do - or can - you draw the line? If intelligence is the criteria, why is it okay to kill 'stupid' animals? All mammals are sociable animals, and aren't all animals more or less sentient? So should we stop killing all animals? Is it even possible to stop the killing of ALL animals? <br /><br />What about people living in arctic areas where you can't grow vegetables? Why should they have to import all their food from far away? Why is it 'unnecessary' to kill pilot whales, and not 'unnecessary' to kill other animals for food? <br /><br />Who's to decide what people 'need' and what they don't 'need' to eat? Do the Faroese 'need' to buy imported meat in the store that comes from enormous polluting farm factory slaughter houses, who don't treat animals any less crueler than the Faroese treat the pilot whales, perhaps much crueler? Why would the Faroese want to buy expensive food from far away and not want to use the available food resources in their own environment? <br /><br />Just asking...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11723584656179151275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-1326921966808541592012-04-30T02:13:54.496+01:002012-04-30T02:13:54.496+01:00You are going to just LOVE this! Have a nice day!You are going to just LOVE this! <a href="http://www.seashepherd.org/commentary-and-editorials/2012/04/28/countering-the-rhetoric-of-an-apostle-of-whale-slaughter-532" title="Got Mercury?" rel="nofollow">Have a nice day!</a>Vegan Spotlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07094624674963238489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-43967391777318316692012-04-30T00:36:57.510+01:002012-04-30T00:36:57.510+01:00Oh you people are nothing short of rediculous! Do ...Oh you people are nothing short of rediculous! Do we tell you how to live your lives? do we call you names like some childish 1st grader? no i think not!<br />Would you people for christs sake get a life and move on? It sickens me to my very core to see how you treat others and have the nerve to call US barbarians! Simply remarkable how pathetic you all areTheOddWisemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16690509546192814743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-38474078101724829572012-04-29T17:52:24.470+01:002012-04-29T17:52:24.470+01:00I grew up ranching in the west of USA, now work in...I grew up ranching in the west of USA, now work in a pork processing plant. I don't eat a lot of meat, sure wish I was eating meats I had raised and slaughtered rather than meat I didn't know the back ground of.<br />High desert ranching is a hard life, but I doubt if the land and climate was as challenging as the Faroe Islands always was and still is.<br />I doubt if there is any large glass manufacturing or others that would make green house materials lower costing. Little tillable land, harsh climate, my guess would be limited water for hydroponic growing. <br />Those who object to how life is lived in the Faroe Islands should move there, make a living there, without 'outside' help or income for a year or so and then re-assess their opinions and judgments of the people and life choices made by a very hardy and hard working, intelligent, educated people who have survived and at times, even thrived in their very challenging worldMaggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10108221715306839746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-21766756002114099552012-04-28T19:51:46.716+01:002012-04-28T19:51:46.716+01:00Hi Elin, I'm Fabrizio and i write from italy. ...Hi Elin, I'm Fabrizio and i write from italy. i found in this post all what i needed to convince myself more on my "campaign" in defending faroese whaling. Too much time I got insulted for defending this thing that, as you explained, creates confusion among foreigners. I'd like, I must admit it, to see all the lies being erased, mostly because are insulting the faroese culture. Regarding what you wrote about other countries, you're totally right! I live in northern Italy: it's impossible to live there! No nature, no grass, no trees, no animals... only cement, houses, buildings, skyscrapers.. the quality of life itself dropped to horrible levels.. The crisis too helped creating confusion. This is not life, this is not living! Life is a natural thing... I hope someday I'll manage to move there, to live my life quietly, far from stress and from pollution.... Thanks for this post. Vit síggjast!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-31151467253924927342011-05-05T23:44:16.230+01:002011-05-05T23:44:16.230+01:00Hi Anonymous,
I'm not sure, I'm getting ...Hi Anonymous, <br /><br />I'm not sure, I'm getting your first question, but if you mean to ask if I use the whaling theme on my blog to promote my songs, it never occurred to me, so to me this is an odd question. I would not gain much by doing it anyway, because very few people read this blog... :-)<br /><br />It's more or less coincidental that many blog posts I've written happen to be about pilot whaling. It's not an issue I give so much thought in my daily life, actually. Music is much more my 'thing'. <br /><br />What concerns me though is the twisted image many people outside the Faroes have of my country - it is often pilot whaling that they are concerned about, but they're impression often seems quite exaggerated. I think it is a pity and that's why I sometimes sit down to write blog posts about pilot whaling to try to give people the chance to view it from a different angle, hopefully, more fair to my beloved people. <br /><br />The second question is easy: No, my songs have nothing to do with whaling.<br /><br />I hope, I answered your questions?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11723584656179151275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-83042114906564641662011-04-25T23:53:45.468+01:002011-04-25T23:53:45.468+01:00Are you promoting your songs? Do they have anythin...Are you promoting your songs? Do they have anything to do with whaling?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-56798522239746002132010-06-19T05:06:59.227+01:002010-06-19T05:06:59.227+01:00A few moments ago, I was upset and confused about ...A few moments ago, I was upset and confused about the pilot whale slaughter. Although I cannot say I would want to participate or see it, and I must admit I would still be happy to see an end to it, I found this blog a helpful insight. Elin, you have presented your thoughts in a thoughtful and intelligent manner. Perhaps the toxicity will create a need for the Faroese to find alternative sustainable foods (there are some fantastic and innovative farming methods in the works). If the people do indeed minimize the suffering of the whales it would certainly be better than the seemingly random and barbaric slashing that many of the sites portray. And the fact that there is little to no waste is important to factor in. I am still conflicted, but this has opened my mind to the Faroese, and forced me to examine how disconnected I am with the food that I consume. Perhaps by eating supermarket meat I am supporting methods that are less humane. Cows/pigs/chickens etc. have been shown to have intelligence comperable to small children, and slaughterhouses are often poorly regulated and unecessarily cruel. I think there is alot to explore here, and much work to be done to connect people with what they eat. Thank you.<br />JDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5366963234879767450.post-57717259291572263032010-06-07T13:19:08.648+01:002010-06-07T13:19:08.648+01:00Hi Elin,
I have just 30 minutes ago received an e...Hi Elin,<br /><br />I have just 30 minutes ago received an e-mail containing a set of pictures and some text condemning the practice in the Faroes.<br /><br />After my initial distaste at the pics, I found your blog insert and find it quite interesting. One never considers the cultural and unique regional realities of a people when shock tactic photos are attached.<br /><br />I find your blog insert to be quite reasonable and while I would not personally participate in such a slaughter, I myself have hunted other animals from when I was in my early teens (as is acceptable in my culture in South Africa).<br /><br />I for one respect the culture of the faroes and hope that the rest of the World can also realize that the wholesale slaughter of cattle, pigs, chickens, turkeys etc is not that different.<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />TonyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com